tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4219984917795758890.post1481789520152802214..comments2024-03-27T22:57:59.870+00:00Comments on klahanie: Pluto Pantomime!klahaniehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08613505424843475639noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4219984917795758890.post-44852892063964321702008-11-11T23:39:00.000+00:002008-11-11T23:39:00.000+00:00Thanks very much for your comments.David: "I certa...Thanks very much for your comments.<BR/>David: "I certainly miss the little blue feller." I assume you are referring to our planetary pal Pluto?<BR/>Laurel Kornfeld: Thank you most kindly for your highly informative comment. Not used to a comment being longer than my blog. I shall be checking out your blog. Pluto needs to be reinstated!<BR/>Arch-ing: Yes indeed, poor Pluto's plight is one 'goofy' situation. Thank you for your 'Mickey Mouse' comment:-)<BR/>dcrelief: You say 'to may toe'? and the British say: 'to mah to'?<BR/>Never mind the pronunciation, I was devastated when I found out a tomato was a fruit! Thank you for your fruitful comments.<BR/>In conlusion. I reckon those astromomer dudes have never really been the same since they discovered 'rings' around Uranus.<BR/>I think I should end now because my comment has reached the 'bottom'.....klahaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08613505424843475639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4219984917795758890.post-8339657280860993482008-11-09T14:51:00.000+00:002008-11-09T14:51:00.000+00:00Klahanie:I remember reading the very article you c...Klahanie:<BR/>I remember reading the very article you cited and found myself disappointed, wondering: why can't they leave well enough alone? I suppose my own childhood dreams and learnings are troubled by accepting change. I want to think that my universe is in tact and only those capable of creating such wonders have the right to name them.<BR/>I cite the day I found out a tomato was a fruit and not a vegetable: so I began to have <BR/>'fruit' salad. Such is life. <BR/>Thank you for the information, and your, now, universally loved humour! In peace, dcreliefAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4219984917795758890.post-91270946677300613272008-11-09T13:12:00.000+00:002008-11-09T13:12:00.000+00:00Gracious Klahanie,I opened my mouth to say somethi...Gracious Klahanie,<BR/>I opened my mouth to say something but nothing came out... poor Pluto's pain... and yours... and what does Goofy think?<BR/>You have such great compassion for our fellow orbs! Your heart must be large... and size counts.<BR/>Warmly,<BR/>Arch-ingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4219984917795758890.post-9335745100105058832008-11-09T06:51:00.000+00:002008-11-09T06:51:00.000+00:00I was--and am--as outraged as you when I heard abo...I was--and am--as outraged as you when I heard about this, and I immediately set about fighting to get it undone. Here are some important things I learned:<BR/><BR/>First, only four percent of the International Astronomical Union (IAU) voted on this, and most of them are not planetary scientists but other types of astronomers. The vote was taken on the last day of a two week conference, and no absentee voting was allowed, meaning anyone not in that room on that day had no say in the matter.<BR/><BR/>The decision was immediately rejected in a petition of 300 astronomers led by Dr. Alan Stern, Principal Investigator of NASA's New Horizons mission to Pluto and one of the leading experts on Pluto in the world. You can find the petition and the names of the signatories here: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/planetprotest/<BR/><BR/>Many planetary scientists--those who specialize in studying planets--are not IAU members and therefore had no say in the matter. <BR/><BR/>A group of planetary scientists, including both IAU members and non-members organized a conference in response to the IAU decision; that conference took place this past August in Laurel, MD, and I attended. The conviction of most there, both scientists and lay people, was a rejection of Pluto's demotion and of the IAU's planet definition. You can find audio and video proceedings of the conference here: http://gpd.jhuapl.edu/<BR/><BR/>The IAU definition that demoted Pluto makes no sense for many reasons. First, it states a dwarf planet is not a planet at all. That's like saying a grizzly bear is not a bear! Second, it defines objects solely by where they are rather than by what they are. If Earth were in Pluto's orbit, according to the IAU definition, it would not be a planet!<BR/><BR/>The alternative favored by many planetary scientists is a far broader definition, specifically, that a planet is any non-self-luminous spheroidal object orbiting a star. Roundness is crucial because it means an object is in a state known as hydrostatic equilibrium, meaning it has enough self-gravity to pull itself into a round shape. When this happens, objects become differentiated into core, mantle, and crust, and develop geological processes, just like Earth and the larger planets and unlike inert, shapeless asteroids.<BR/><BR/>One way to remedy the situation is to place dwarf planets as a subcategory of planets. Using subcategories is a way of distinguishing among planets with very different features. If we count dwarf planets as simply smaller planets that do not dominate their orbits--but as planets nevertheless based on their being in hydrostatic equilibrium--our solar system has a total of 13 planets. They are Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Ceres, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Haumea, Makemake, and Eris.<BR/><BR/>You can also find more on worldwide efforts to reinstate Pluto on my blog at http://laurele.livejournal.comLaurel Kornfeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02387883186244337619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4219984917795758890.post-7415978006496957532008-11-09T04:07:00.000+00:002008-11-09T04:07:00.000+00:00Dear Klahanie,Can I just say that in this post you...Dear Klahanie,<BR/><BR/>Can I just say that in this post you are definitely not talking out of Uranus.<BR/>In fact, when I heard the news about Pluto, probably my favourite planet, I too was devastated. I certainly miss the little blue feller.<BR/>Yours With Warmest Wishes,<BR/>David.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08115443256449529220noreply@blogger.com